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August 2008 Newsletter.

Next meeting: Saturday, August 2, 2008, at 10:00am.
Location: Clubhouse, Blair Field, Knutsford.

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Flyer's Reunion

Dennis and Linda Seib have organized a flyer's reunion and dinner for this coming week-end. This saturday, August 2nd @ the Kamloops Flying Club:  Appies @ 5pm and dinner @ 6:30pm  Cost for dinner is by donation.  Coffee/tea/punch are provided but if you'd like to bring your own beverage (alcoholic or otherwise) you are welcome to.  Please come enjoy a good dinner and a great time of memories and making new friends as well as seeing old acquaintances.
 
Please let Dennis or Linda know if you plan on attending.

Editor's Notes

Thanks to Dan Nelson for his story of his trip across Canada. Following is the first instalment. The other two will be published in the next month's newsletters.

We do not request any fee to place ads in our Buy&Sell section; so lately I was a bit surprised when a gentleman insisted on sending us a cheque to show his appreciation after his power parachute was sold. Dick Suttie told me that he had done the same for a previous ad... Thank You, Mario! You are a gentleman! Friends, please check his new ad for an aircraft engine in the Parts section.

A few weeks ago, I flew over to Highland Valley Copper (where I worked for five years) to look at the geodesic dome they are building over one of the stock piles. Very impressive!

RIDING A HIGH PRESURE RIDGE ACROSS CANADA

 By Dave Jones and Dan Nelson

(Part 1 of 3.)

Let’s start with the most frequent asked question as we flew across Canada -------Why would you fly all the way to Bear River Nova Scotia to buy a set of floats, when you live in Kamloops BC?

Well it’s a story we would like to share with you.

Maybe first I best introduce you to these two; Dave Jones is a logger who divides his time between logging on the North end of Vancouver Island and his farm at Monte Creek east of Kamloops. Dan Nelson is a flying instructor, retired DFTE and former charter operator who lives in Kamloops.

I guess our story starts when Dave decided to sell his Stinson 108 and build his own airplane. In 2000 he decided to build a PA14, so he had a frame made at Vernon BC by John Mitchell of Interior Pacific Flight Systems and got a set of North Star wings from, Morgan Williams of Custom Flight Components in Perkins field Ontario. The engine an, 0-320-A2B was built by Bart Lalonde of Aero sport in Kamloops. The project was completed in 2005 and all test flights went well, but Dave had always had his Stinson on floats so of course he now needed floats for his new airplane. He did not want to start out with an old set of floats so with a little shopping he learned that Ed Peck in Bear River Nova Scotia would build him a new set of 2250’s, so a deal was struck and Dave started to save his money.

So the day came, Eddy will have the floats ready by June [of 2007] but Dave is not sure how to get them home with out damaging them.

That’s when Dan said “I know how to do that, lets fly down to Bear River and get them It could be a real adventure!”

“You have to be kidding, how do we get across the prairies on floats” was Dave’s reply. Dan [having done it twice before] assured him that it wouldn’t be a problem. It was decided that we would leave around the first part of June, so a route was planned and a new set of maps were ordered.

There had been a high pressure ridge sitting over southern BC for the better part of a week but it started to show signs of weakening so we decided to leave on June 03rd.

The morning dawned bright and clear and Dave arrived at the Kamloops airport to pick up Dan and all the stuff needed for the trip, the tanks were topped up and we left Kamloops at 9:45am with a flight plan to Okotoks Alberta via the Rogers Pass.

Leaving Kamloops!

With clear skies we were able to fly east at 7500ft, this was a help because the Revelstoke flying club had held a fly in breakfast and there were many small airplanes leaving about the time, we got there.

We did a position report with Kamloops FIC and on up the pass we went, once at the summit of the Rogers Pass we climbed to 9500 ft and headed over the Dog Tooth range to Golden. Another check in with Kamloops FIC and east to Lake Louise and then to Exshaw Alberta, where we turned and headed for Okotoks. By now we were learning that a little more padding in the seats would have been a good thing. We saw a few TCU build ups south and west of Calgary but posed no problem in our 4 hr trip to Okotoks It was also imperative that we stay clear of Calgary’s control zone and all other zones along the way because we did not have a transponder.

After refuelling and a much needed rest at Okotoks we checked the Edmonton FIC for weather and a decision was made to head for Moose Jaw Saskatchewan, there were some TCU’s building near our destination, but we were flying across the prairies in a Cub so if we had to stop it was no problem. We filed a flight plan and headed east, our track took us past Brooks and just north of the Suffield range. All looked very flat after coming out of the mountains. By now Dave is starting to realize the prairies do have quite a bit of water, we had just flown all the way to the Saskatchewan border with the Bow and Red Deer River out the window, not to mention Lake Newell, Crawling Valley and Diefenbaker Lake in Saskatchewan.

We made it to Moose Jaw just behind a TCU moving east; it had been 4.2hrs since we left Okotoks and again time to get out and walk around. The Moose Jaw airport has a very small Quonset type building that is used for passenger waiting area and as we found it works well to sleep in. It also comes equipped with a phone.

Pilot's lounge in Moose Jaw

 

Cooking supper in Moose Jaw

 

After a hardy dinner of fried sausage, bread and butter, it was off to bed.

Day #2

Next morning dawned bright and sunny we heard someone moving around out side and we went over and met Bill Nyman of Provincial Airways; Bill has an aerial spray business out of the Moose Jaw airport, and sells fuel. Bill was getting ready to go spraying so we moved our airplane over and got it filled up so he could get away. He was kind enough to let us in the hanger to wash up, but by the time he got his airplane ready to go spraying the wind had changed and he had to wait, that was when Bill asked us over for breakfast in his trailer.

Breakfast with Bill Wyman

Bill was very interested in our adventure and was a great help to us on the way back. That story later.

We checked the weather for Steinbach and Atikokan Ontario, filed our flight plan and headed east. We left at 8:30am and had a good trip to Stienback; most of the way with tail winds, showing a ground speed of 109mph pretty descend for a cub there was low cloud in the Brandon to Winnipeg area but remained VFR. It was 4.2 hrs to Steinback and a very strong wind was blowing, when we arrived, but luckily, it was straight down the runway.

Steinbach has a very nice airport, and friendly people to help with fuelling. We took a break and had some lunch, checked the weather guy again and he said the weather was good to Atikokan Ont. We filed our plan direct to but had to stay a little north of track over the north end of Lake of the Woods. Lake of the Woods is a very large and beautiful body of water with many islands and coves. Our track took us over the town of Nester Falls, another great spot and a must see, we will talk more about it on the way home. We had some scattered cloud and light chop to Atikokan, with the sun behind us we could see a large smoke stack north of Atikokan and would find out later it was a coal powered hydro plant.

We arrived at Atikokan around 5:30pm and there was 5 turbine air tractors sitting waiting to spray bugs, the weather had been holding them up for a week, but the high we were riding was about to get them in the air. They had a crew of 15, which included the pilots, loaders, dispatch and security. Most of the Air tractors were from Saskatchewan, Battleford Airways, also some from Alberta. After refuelling and setting up our tents we decided it was time for supper, one of the pilots gave us a ride into town, when we were done, the restaurant owner gave us a ride back to the airport; he said the taxi was not running at that time.

Day#3

We were up early at 4:00 the next morning; the air spray crew were already there loading to start spraying. Once the sun was up and our tents were dry, we checked weather east and found out the high had moved just east of Lake Superior so the plan is to go to Wawa Ont. With everything loaded, we were off at 7:00am. Some low clouds, but no bad weather or winds forecast for our route.

There was some light rain near Marathon but we decided to go on, the trip along the north shore of Lake Superior was great.

It was 3.5hrs to Wawa but we had to stop for the day and again let the high move east. It was cloudy and windy in Wawa when we arrived so we refuelled and tied down when the gas bill came there was an extra $8:00 on it for landing fee’s but with a couple of questions directed to the airport manager it was decided they had over charged us. The weather lady was great help and gave us a ride into town where we got a motel. Wawa is a great little town to have to wait out weather. There is an old general store on Main Street with a stuffed moose and lots of antique stuff, also a very large Canada goose statue near the airport and entrance to the town.

Wawa Ontario

(To be continued next month)

 

Flight to Barriere

Greg Peterson had invited me to fly to his airstrip just North of Barriere, and this last Monday morning, July 28, I finally got the chance to do it; the air was fresh, and the wind had stopped blowing for a while; Bill Huxley was getting ready to fly to Salmon Arm. I was airborne by eight, heading over to the Rose Hills area; a beautiful day, with low clouds around the Kamloops area.

I made my descent into the valley East of Juniper Ridge, with the throttle down to 5000rpm so the noise would not aggravate the residents.

I flew low over the South Thompson by Dallas, where an aircraft was just touching down on the river.

I climbed back to make it over the ridge and into the Harper Ranch Valley,

and North to Paul Lake road where I kept on going all the way to the Heffley Lake road.

I turned left for the North Thompson Valley, and for a minute it looked like it might be blocked by low clouds. Fortunately, they were few, and scattered at 2000 feet on the hillsides; it was quite nice to fly right by them, but it was getting cold inside my insulated flight coveralls.

By the time I reached Barriere, the sun was shining. It was easy to find Greg's strip, just past the golf course. According to Greg: "It is approx. 1300' end to end.  The best approach is from the north.  From the north end to where the strip passes through the fenceline, there is a gentle dip, so I try to hold off for touch down just after the fenceline (and windsock) .  The approach from the south is more challenging.  I slip it in hard to make things work out. The coordinates for my strip are 51' 13.85N    120' 10.54W   elevation 1560'."

Seen from the North: (Photo by Greg Peterson)

I had plenty of fuel left. (Photo by Greg) Greg's Yarrow Arrow in the back.

I did not want to stay too long, afraid that the wind would start again and make it for an unpleasant flight back to Knutsford. But I still took the time to fly an extra mile North to circle over Bill Nelson's farm. I could see him busy on the lawnmower, so he did not realize that I was around until I flew in front of the sun and gave him a start! He thought that shadow was an eagle until he spotted me...

Heading back (Photo by Greg)

Going over the saddle, West of Harper Ranch. The South Thompson and Dallas below.

The flight back was fairly smooth, except when I gor to the top of the hills above Juniper Ridge, where the turbulence got pretty nasty all the way to the strip. Bill Ross was working on his Renegade:

I landed in a crosswind that was still easy to handle. It was a great trip, and I hope to do it again, this time with a few of my friends. I was the first to land on Greg's strip, and he would be happy to see others come for a visit.

HIGH COST OF FLYING

 By Barry Meek

        Why is it so expensive to fly?  Every aircraft owner could answer that.   It used to be the cost of parts, repairs, government regulations, insurance, hangar fees and so on.  More recently, it’s the price of fuel that’s on everyone’s mind.

In North America, we’re paying close to $7.00/gallon, while in European and other countries, they’re being hosed for well over twice that.  Somehow, there are still planes in the air.

        It’s remarkable too that small charter and training operations keep flying.  The regulations forced upon these guys by Transport Canada and the FAA are enough to choke the life out of anyone.  To run an air service, the operator requires permission from the government in the form of an Operating Certificate.  That “O.C.” outlines just about everything the guy needs to do from when he gets up in the morning until he goes to sleep at night, usually about 16 to 20 hours later.  He’s told where and when he can fly, who he can hire, what and how to train his employees, how much he can charge, what insurance to buy, how to outfit his aircraft, and faces so many other on-going and new regulations, it would be impossible to list them all in any single document.  It’s enough to make almost anyone throw up his arms and walk away from the mess.

          Fortunately, there are those who have the stamina and the drive to push ahead to keep an air operation going, until he runs out of money anyway.  For the traveling public, that is a good thing.  The smaller operators in remote areas provide a service for which there is no alternative.  Several of the major  airlines are in trouble, some will fold, but we’ll never run out of ways to get around the world by air.

          This is all worth thinking about because ultimately, the customer and the non-flying public have some control over the costs involved in flying.  For example, who do you think is responsible for most of the regulations that force up costs?  The government for sure, but it comes from people like a California woman, Kate Hanni, who is an advocate for airline passenger’s rights.  She has her case against American Airlines before a Federal judge in Oakland, because American left a planeload of passengers stranded on a tarmac in Austin, Texas, for nine hours in December 2006.  This woman formed the “Coalition for an Airline Passenger’s Rights” to take her case to the courts. 

            This group of people, numbering over 21,000 and growing, seems to be packing a big stick.  They’ve got several influential members of government on their side.  They circulate petitions and run active membership drives through websites.  They will undoubtedly succeed to some degree with their goals.  But at what cost, and more to the point … is this the right way to deal with the situation?

            First of all, the incident that got the ball rolling was an American Airlines plane being diverted around dangerous thunderstorms.  They were sent to Austin, Texaswhere apparently gates and services were already stretched beyond limits.  Consequently, although safely on the ground, the airport and American were simply unable to accommodate the passengers with anything close to first-class service.  I can’t see where it’s much different from a driver in a Saskatchewan snowstorm being forced to spend the night at a farmer’s home.  He wouldn’t get a feather bed and four-course breakfast for sure, but he would be warm and safe.  You’d never hear of the traveler forming a coalition to force all prairie farmers to prepare their homes and accommodate unfortunates who are stranded by weather. 

            It seems to me that the whole system could be cleaned up, the poor, inconsiderate, money-grabbing operators could be culled by the simple process of supply-and-demand, and the world would still be a happy place.  If American Airlines deliberately mistreated their customers on a regular basis, it wouldn’t be long before they had no customers to treat.  Meantime, it would open the door for an airline that could see the opportunity for their own good service to succeed. 

            Maybe this is all too simple.  What’s missing here?  What this Coalition for Airline Passenger’s Rights is attempting to do, is force even more regulations on the air service operators.  They want government to wade in and dictate rules, many of which would be beyond the control of the airline, such as assuring no plane sits on a tarmac for more than three hours without having a gate to dock at.  Isn’t that at least partly the responsibility of the airport?  Many delays come from the stuffed air traffic control system, a major problem that could be seeing breakthroughs with the next generation of air traffic control.

            Their “bill of rights” goes on, demanding personnel immediately  available to move passengers from one area of a terminal to another, to ensure their baggage shows up when and where it’s supposed to, compensation of 150% of a ticket price for those who are bumped by postponed flights (for any reason).  There is a lot more, and you can see their website for details. 

             I may be cynical, but if we demand the government to come in and start enforcing even more regulations on all air operators, isn’t this ultimately going to push ticket prices up even more?  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.  The free market always has, and will continue to weed out the poor and greedy business operators.  The result of more and more regulation can only mean a higher and higher costs for all air operators and all customers.  

             If American Airlines is truly negligent and greedy, or is just inefficient and needs a business plan overhaul, then it will ultimately face the market and make the changes needed.  Or, it will simply disappear.  Adding more regulations will eventually ensure the demise of all air operators.

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